Arrested Development - Ex-Pats Mexico

Last chance for Ex-Pats and Wanna-Bees
It is currently Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:01 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours


26th Oct 09 - For urgent error, please post at our FaceBook group. Support platform will be back within 1-2 days.



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: 35 dead
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:29 pm 
Offline
Expat Retread
Expat Retread

Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:36 am
Posts: 827
35 killed in Mexican Drug violence
Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:53:49 GMT

Drug-related brutal attacks and crimes spanning five Mexican states, kill 35 people in one single day, security officials say.

Despite the deployment of 50,000 soldiers across the country by the government to confront the cartels.

On Friday, ten bodies were discovered in six different locations in the southern state of Guerrero, and another six bodies were found in the small town of Ciudad Ayala.

All the bodies had messages attached. One of the messages said: "This is what is going to happen to all the rats, kidnappers and extortionists." The messages were signed by the "boss of bosses."

Bodies of seven victims of an execution-style killing were discovered in two locations in the vicinity of Mexico State. And in Tijuana, near the US border, a civil servant was found hanging from a bridge, badly beaten and his head bound with adhesive tape.

Two more men were killed around the border region, the epicenter of Mexico's bloody drug wars.

http://www.presstv.ir/sections.aspx?section=351020705


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: 35 dead
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:54 am 
Offline
Expat Retread
Expat Retread
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:43 pm
Posts: 168
Hmmm......don't know about the rats but it sounds like a fitting end for the extortionists and kidnappers. Is the boss trying to keep his boys focused on drugs only?

Bob


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: 35 dead
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:15 am 
Offline
Expat Retread
Expat Retread
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:15 pm
Posts: 1634
Location: San Cristobal Zapotitlan
CanuckBob wrote:
Hmmm......don't know about the rats but it sounds like a fitting end for the extortionists and kidnappers. Is the boss trying to keep his boys focused on drugs only?

Bob


Quote:
"This is what is going to happen to all the rats, kidnappers and extortionists."


The message appears to me to be the work of rogue law enforcement officials and officers.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: 35 dead
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:39 am 
Offline
Expat Retread
Expat Retread
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:02 pm
Posts: 840
Location: San Pedro Tesistan,Copperas Cove Tx
Or...Could this a lone case "Vigilante Justice"?

_________________
Night....I have been one acquainted with the night.
I have walked out in rain -- and back in rain.
I have outwalked the furthest city light.
I have been one acquainted with the night.

Visit the Shh Files Forums


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: 35 dead
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:44 am 
Offline
Expat Retread
Expat Retread

Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:45 am
Posts: 273
Strange as it may seem, the La Familia cartel out of Michoacan has been known to post similar "narcomensajes" on the corpses of rivals. They like to portray themselves as being on the side of truth and justice, mind boggling isn't it?


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: 35 dead
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:34 am 
Offline
Expat Retread
Expat Retread
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:02 pm
Posts: 840
Location: San Pedro Tesistan,Copperas Cove Tx
AustinC wrote:
Strange as it may seem, the La Familia cartel out of Michoacan has been known to post similar "narcomensajes" on the corpses of rivals. They like to portray themselves as being on the side of truth and justice, mind boggling isn't it?

The drug smuggling in Michoacan has traditionally been controlled by a syndicate known as Los Valencia. They depend on the Zetas, former Mexican military turned into murderers for hire.

Update:***Translated
Attachment:
Slaughter.jpg
Slaughter.jpg [ 24.55 KB | Viewed 213 times ]

Quote:
SLAUGHTER. The bodies piled eleven men and one woman, bound, tortured and killed by a shot in the neck, along a highway in the state of Michoacan. (AFP)

To read the whole article refer to:
http://www.clarin.com/diario/2009/07/14 ... 958373.htm

The drug cartel La Familia Michoacana declared war on the Mexican authorities after the capture of one of its leaders, which was evident today with the confirmation that the group massacred twelve plainclothes federal police.
According Rubido, the crimes were ordered by Servando Gomez Martinez, aka "La Tuta", who recently assumed operational control of the family.

_________________
Night....I have been one acquainted with the night.
I have walked out in rain -- and back in rain.
I have outwalked the furthest city light.
I have been one acquainted with the night.

Visit the Shh Files Forums


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: 35 dead
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:00 am 
Offline
Expat Retread
Expat Retread
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:15 pm
Posts: 1634
Location: San Cristobal Zapotitlan
This is what terror is. Killing law enforcement and politicians is meant to cause so much terror among them that they can't or won't fight back. Mexico needs to ask the U.S. for help in combating these terrorist and have the U.S. private military sent here to cause the gangs a little terror. I think the old Blackwater crew could finish off some drug cartels pretty fast.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: 35 dead
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:18 pm 
Offline
Expat Retread
Expat Retread
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:02 pm
Posts: 840
Location: San Pedro Tesistan,Copperas Cove Tx
I agree w/ you on Blackwater...There has been serious talk on this subject on the Mexican military forums about this exact subject. So far just talk, it is a consideration however...But who knows???

_________________
Night....I have been one acquainted with the night.
I have walked out in rain -- and back in rain.
I have outwalked the furthest city light.
I have been one acquainted with the night.

Visit the Shh Files Forums


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: 35 dead
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:29 pm 
Offline
Expat Retread
Expat Retread
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:42 pm
Posts: 1341
Location: Melaque, Jalisco Mexico
Highscores: 1
Blackwater sounds bad ... but how the hell do outsiders get the information they need. Paying 10 times what the cartels pay ... I don't think so

_________________
Oh no .... not another learning experience
Sparks Mexico - Costalegre - Manzanillo


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
 Post subject: Re: 35 dead
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:43 pm 
Offline
Expat Retread
Expat Retread

Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:52 pm
Posts: 238
Some years back, when La Familia, was gaining ground in Michoacan, besides shock events like rolling heads across the dance-floor, some of the narcomensajes, distinguished between those dealers that protect, 'women and children', and others(the murdered ones) who don't. This latter group was sometimes, identified by La Familia's messages as guys dealing with 'meth'.

Especially those with local laboratories, churning out product for the local market.

As if somehow implying a hierarchy of drug dealing. 'Meth' use/dealing-super-bad/destroyer of families/values etc. Cocaine, marijuana trafficking especially on route to the U.S./Canada. A different. scene?

Perhaps some drug traffickers distinguish between 'trafficking', as a business opportunity, enabling them to provide for their families but really against the use of same drugs in their homes and communities. Especially selling to children and teens.

However, the above comments fall more into line with the 'Robin Hood'/macho ideal scenario. Which may or may not exist or be changing.

My experience with drugs/gangs in Mexico had more to do with young men, undereducated, poor families, few job opportunites beyond the minimum wage category, perhaps some of them even lazy, seeking an easier way to make money than laboring, sliding into personal drug use. Then getting into dealing to support habits and ripe for recruitment into gangs with larger agendas.

Back then, it was 'gomme' resin-like substance, a cheap high, and marijuana, cheap, plentiful and easy to grow if so inclined. Over the last ten years, understand, that in the same small towns/ among the same/similiar people, other Mexicans have introduced them to heroine and crack cocaine etc. Hooking them. And then enabling them through gangs, to deal and steal in a more organized fashion, compared to free-lance enterprise.

Of course, if you're from the U.S/Canada/Europe, much of dynamics above will sound familiar. However ten years ago, according to our Mexican friends, there wasn't much hard drug use outside certain social circles and larger metro centers.

That has apparently changed. Besides the drug trafficking beyond Mexico, am led to believe, that the domestic market for product is growing steadily.

As the economic condition, declines. Desparate times/ desparate measures.
Especially in light of increasing violence and armed robbery. Before petty thievery was an opportunistic way of life. No harm to the 'person'.

And if you know anything about Catholicism in Mexico, this is an important distinction between crimes to people and crimes to property.

However, the times they are a'changing. And past experience may not determine future outcomes.


Top
 Profile E-mail  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:


FREE MESSAGE BOARD Hosting by setBB. Create your Free FREE BULLETIN BOARD Hosting now!
Free CHAT and FORUM Hosting Features - FREE PHPBB HOSTING Directory Listing - FREE FORUM HOSTING Terms of Service - Free ONLINE COMMUNITY Hosting Privacy - JAPANESE FASHION ACCESSORIES
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
phpBB SEO

Portal by phpBB3 Portal © phpBB Türkiye