I've been occupied the last 6 hours assisting one of my baby cats have kittens, so I'll try to cover as much as I can in one fell stroke, beginning with Sparks:
So, you see Sparks, at the very least I could have told you how to get to Soriana and a number of other places around the N shore, oh well, politics are religion to some folks.
As to the answer to mazdee: First of all never apologize for being old, it beats the alternative and being a Lib? - well, all depends on your "flavor.
The person I call "Bob" is actually a person who signs in as guy411. This person originally came on the board saying they were looking for an honest party, they pretended to be "independent" (an immediate red flag) and honestly wanting to know about the GOP, so I spent considerable time offline trying to give an honest comparison of Cons vs. Libs with references including Rush. Of course as it turns out this "person" (whom I've become more and more suspicious of being an alter personality of Pammy) is a screaming mindless Liberal.
Now, to a point, that's fine, I have several friends, one closest to me is a partner in business and friend for nearly 45 years, but he's an honest Lib, he admits it, we get along fine. The person we're discussing here began by lying about his intention, his politics, his purpose on this forum and generally everything - possibly including his supposed real name "Paulo" who has never ever admitted where he lives, so this "person" is a mystery other than being a far leftwingnut. So, the more I dealt with his personal insults and lack of substance I realized while he may or may not be Pammy in drag, he more honestly personifies the notorious Baghdad Bob, Saddam's sidekick and spin artist.
Remember when the Americans had landed and secured the Baghdad airport? - well, Bob came on camera and said the Americans were no where near Baghdad, they were in total defeat and retreat, this guy became the laughing stock of the press and inspired several would be comedians - which is exactly what our friend attempts to do in pseudo defence of Libs and O, I started calling him what he attempts to be - a buffoon in the finest tradition of Baghdad Bob, which he actually does very well, so maybe he accomplishes his goal, who knows?
And as for alternative Conservative (not GOP) plans, there are any number on any subject you are interested in viewing. You haven't heard of them? - gee, wonder why the major media NEVER covers them? - you can find them if you're honestly interested, who knows, you might find you're in the wrong pew - happens more and more.
Now then for Bob:
Here you go Bob, I'm sure you can put the old Baghdad spin on this so it will all make sense and I won't have to worry.
Barack Obama sees worst poll rating drop in 50 yearsThe decline in Barack Obama's popularity since July has been the steepest of any president at the same stage of his first term for more than 50 years.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6409721/Barack-Obama-sees-worst-poll-rating-drop-in-50-years.html#Romer: Impact of stimulus will level off(49 of 50 states have lost jobs since stimulus)
http://www.examiner.com/x-16781-Tallahassee-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m10d22-49-of-50-states-have-lost-jobs-since-Stimulus-was-passedhttp://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i-95E_TCyqYX0CBZ5xQAV_V3VWyQD9BG76902Dems seek cover to boost debt limitThe Senate must soon increase the national debt limit to above $13 trillion and Democrats are looking for political cover.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28586.html